{"id":1131,"date":"2022-07-17T13:43:09","date_gmt":"2022-07-17T11:43:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/?p=1131"},"modified":"2025-05-06T14:27:56","modified_gmt":"2025-05-06T12:27:56","slug":"creil-ce-nest-pas-ce-quon-pense","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/creil-ce-nest-pas-ce-quon-pense\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00ab Creil, ce n\u2019est pas ce qu\u2019on pense \u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Transats pos\u00e9s sur le sable blanc, parasols rouges, structures gonflables, minigolf et terrain de p\u00e9tanque, l\u2019\u00eele Saint-Maurice a rev\u00eatu ses atours estivaux. En cet apr\u00e8s-midi caniculaire, les familles prennent leurs quartiers \u00e0 l\u2019ombre, et alors que les enfants partent explorer les jeux, nous avons pris le temps de discuter avec m\u00e8res et grands-m\u00e8res venues autant occuper leur prog\u00e9niture que chercher la fra\u00eecheur offerte gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 la rivi\u00e8re toute proche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Isabelle, confortablement install\u00e9e dans un transat, est arriv\u00e9e \u00e0 Creil il y a 10 ans, gr\u00e2ce aux prix des logements, moins \u00e9lev\u00e9s dans ici que dans le 95 o\u00f9 elle habitait alors. De Creil, elle connaissait la r\u00e9putation qui s\u2019\u00e9tale souvent dans les gros titres&nbsp;: drogue, d\u00e9linquance et ins\u00e9curit\u00e9. Elle fait le choix de s\u2019y installer, \u00ab&nbsp;<em>pour plus d\u2019air, plus de place, plus de verdure<\/em> \u00bb que dans le Val d\u2019Oise, avec en prime un temps de transport plus court pour rejoindre Paris o\u00f9 elle travaille alors dans le restauration. \u00ab&nbsp;E<em>n fait, Creil, ce n\u2019est pas ce qu\u2019on pense<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, glisse-t-elle. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Les jeunes d\u00e9linquants, ils font leurs histoires entre eux. Tant qu\u2019on ne s\u2019en m\u00eale pas, on n\u2019a aucun probl\u00e8me. Ce n\u2019est pas comme \u00e0 Sarcelles o\u00f9 l\u00e0, pour le coup, il pouvait y avoir des r\u00e9percussions sur nous.&nbsp;<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery aligncenter columns-3 is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\"><ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\"><li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\"><figure><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_151419-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"1143\" data-full-url=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_151419-1-scaled.jpg\" data-link=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/img_20220714_151419-1\/\" class=\"wp-image-1143\" srcset=\"https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_151419-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, 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https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_151320-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\"><figure><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"1144\" data-full-url=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-scaled.jpg\" data-link=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/img_20220714_161231-1\/\" class=\"wp-image-1144\" srcset=\"https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_161231-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><\/ul><figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-caption\">L&rsquo;\u00eele Saint-Maurice l&rsquo;\u00e9t\u00e9. \u00a9 Cl\u00e9mence Leleu<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Chercher la tranquilit\u00e9<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Pendant un temps, Isabelle fait l\u2019aller-retour tous les jours pour Paris, avec un retour apr\u00e8s son service pass\u00e9 minuit. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>M\u00eame lorsque je prenais le dernier RER, lorsque je marche toute seule \u00e0 1h du matin dehors, il ne m\u2019est jamais rien arriv\u00e9. Pareil, je peux m\u2019habiller en jupe, je ne suis jamais siffl\u00e9e. Ici, je suis tranquille&nbsp;<\/em>\u00bb, poursuit-elle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La tranquillit\u00e9, c\u2019est aussi un mot qui revient r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement lorsque l\u2019on discute avec Imen. Chapeau de paille pos\u00e9 d\u00e9licatement sur son voile, lunette de soleil ronde sur le nez, elle raconte volontiers sa ville, o\u00f9 elle est arriv\u00e9e en 2009, pour rejoindre son mari. Elle arrive alors de Tunisie. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>C\u2019est calme ici par rapport \u00e0 Paris ou \u00e0 Marseille, sauf que lorsqu\u2019on parle de la ville dans les journaux, on a toujours l\u2019impression qu\u2019on est dans une ville dangereuse<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, estime Imen, qui vit dans le bas de Creil, reconnaissant tout de m\u00eame que son quartier est plus calme que \u00ab&nbsp;l\u00e0-haut&nbsp;\u00bb. \u00ab&nbsp;L\u00e0-haut&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;? C\u2019est le Plateau. Un quartier sur lequel tout le monde a un avis, une histoire ou une rumeur \u00e0 raconter. Un territoire perch\u00e9 au sommet de la ville, qui concentre tr\u00e8s souvent l\u2019attention des m\u00e9dias, toujours pour les m\u00eames histoires&nbsp;: la d\u00e9linquance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"http:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_155255-1-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_155255-1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_155255-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_155255-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_155255-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/association-carmen.fr\/la-caravane-des-medias\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/IMG_20220714_155255-1-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Imen vit \u00e0 Creil depuis 2009. \u00a9 Cl\u00e9mence Leleu<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Lala* vit \u00ab&nbsp;l\u00e0-haut&nbsp;\u00bb. Elle est descendue passer l\u2019apr\u00e8s-midi avec ses enfants et ses amies \u00e0 l\u2019\u00eele Saint-Maurice, et ce quartier du Plateau elle pourrait en parler des heures. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>C\u2019est simple, je n\u2019arrive pas \u00e0 en partir, \u00e0 couper le cordon<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, explique-t-elle. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Les poubelles qui br\u00fblent, les trafics, on s\u2019est habitu\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00e7a. \u00c7a fait partie du quartier. De la d\u00e9linquance, bien s\u00fbr qu\u2019il y en a, mais elle est partout, dans toutes les villes&nbsp;!<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb Ce qu\u2019elle aime au Plateau, c\u2019est le m\u00e9lange des origines, le respect entre voisins, les grands qui veillent sur les plus jeunes. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Il y a beaucoup de respect dans ce quartier. Il y a toutes les nationalit\u00e9s, on est ensemble. Il n\u2019y a aucun probl\u00e8me de religion, de couleurs, d\u2019origine. On ne se sent pas jug\u00e9es<\/em>.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00eame sentiment pour Imen, \u00e0 Creil, elle se sent libre et surtout accept\u00e9e comme elle est, avec son foulard. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Ici, il n\u2019y a jamais quelqu\u2019un qui va me regarder bizarre parce que je suis voil\u00e9e. Dans ma formation, on m\u2019a accept\u00e9 avec, et pareil, je n\u2019ai pas eu de souci pour pouvoir trouver un stage en ville. Mais ce n\u2019est pas pareil partout. Une fois, je suis all\u00e9e \u00e0 Saint-Quentin et \u00e7a n\u2019est pas la m\u00eame chose, je me suis sentie jug\u00e9e<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, se souvient la jeune femme. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Les gens ont des id\u00e9es toutes faites sur ce sujet, nous on aimerait se raconter, \u00e9changer, discuter. Mais il y en a pour qui c\u2019est tout suite non. \u00ab&nbsp;<\/em>Si tu as le voile, je ne te parle pas<em>.&nbsp;\u00bb C\u2019est dommage.&nbsp;<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>* <em>Le pr\u00e9nom a \u00e9t\u00e9 modifi\u00e9<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transats pos\u00e9s sur le sable blanc, parasols rouges, structures gonflables, minigolf et terrain de p\u00e9tanque, l\u2019\u00eele Saint-Maurice a rev\u00eatu ses atours estivaux. En cet apr\u00e8s-midi caniculaire, les familles prennent leurs quartiers \u00e0 l\u2019ombre, et alors que les enfants partent explorer les jeux, nous avons pris le temps de discuter avec m\u00e8res et grands-m\u00e8res venues autant occuper leur prog\u00e9niture que chercher la fra\u00eecheur offerte gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 la rivi\u00e8re toute proche.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1140,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,27],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1131","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-creil","category-femmes"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>\u00ab Creil, ce n\u2019est pas ce qu\u2019on pense \u00bb - La caravane des m\u00e9dias<\/title>\n<meta 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